March 10, 2025

"Pick up your pen and write a different story." Public Speaking World Champion, Verity Price

"Pick up your pen and write a different story." Public Speaking World Champion, Verity Price
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"Pick up your pen and write a different story." Public Speaking World Champion, Verity Price

What if your life suddenly changed course, not by choice, but by force? In this episode, host Sean Loots introduces Verity, a woman who decided to rewrite her life after a personal lifequake.

Through courage, creativity, and deep self-reflection, Verity learned that we always have the power to author a new chapter, no matter how messy the last one was.

Sean guides this conversation on transformation, resilience, and the small but powerful shifts that can lead to a completely new sense of self.

In this episode, Verity Price tells a story filled with twists and turns.
From losing her dad at 24, to walking the Camino de Santiago in his honor, writing a letter to the future, and even following a man to America. Verity went on to sell 2,000 copies of an album before it was even recorded, and in 2021, she beat 35,000 people to become the World Champion of Public Speaking.

QUOTES:
"I was shaken to my core. We had a week with him, and it was really rough because he was paralyzed. So this very verbal father that I'd had could just look at me with his eyes, and he was totally paralyzed from the stroke."
“The biggest lesson I learned from that was that your ego often has one idea of what your life should look like and your soul has another.”
"I cried so much while rehearsing them and hoping they could hear how much I love them, and my speech that I won with was literally saying, "Your life is a book. If you're not enjoying the read, pick up your pen and write a different story."

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00:00 - Intro

03:15 - Gratitude

04:36 - Letters from dad

05:55 - Overwhelming dread

09:19 - Struggles with grief

10:55 - Power of the mind

12:46 - Journey for the soul

14:22 - Visualization techniques

14:51 - Letter to the future

21:51 - Ego vs Soul path

22:39 - Journey to World Public Speaking Championships

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Hey, how are you?
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and emotional.
So,

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have you heard the term life quake?
Well, in this podcast,

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we talk about life quakes, those
unpredictable seismic shifts that,

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Here you can expect heartfelt stories
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My name is Shawn,

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Today's story belongs to Verity.
Your life is a book.

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If you're not enjoying the read.
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There's a saying that you regret
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than the things you actually did.
Sometimes we use the saying to

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justify big, bold moves like
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excuse some outlandish behavior.
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do, the what ifs, the could have,
would have, should haves.

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The if onlys can haunt you for a
long time.

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The biggest regrets I have is a 23.
You don't really tell your

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parents how awesome they are.
How many of us can honestly say

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that we were showing our parents
gratitude in our younger years?

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And why would we?
For most of us in our teens and

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20s especially, were finding
ourselves in this great big world

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and life is full of possibilities.
We live fast and hard,

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with little capacity to
appreciate what and who we have.

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My dad was he was a character.
He was 48 when I was born, so he was

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a much older dad back in the 70s.
That was like really geriatric.

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So I had this older dad.
He was tall, he was skinny,

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he was bald.
He would when you'd pick me up,

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people thought he was my grandfather.
So as a teenager I was always like,

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oh, it's so uncool.
But now, looking back very.

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He can see clearly how cool her
dad actually was.

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So he was reading any book around
the power of the mind, you know,

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Think and Grow Rich or How to Win
Friends and Influence people.

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And then the poor man were trying
to share it with his opinionated

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teenage daughter and, you know.
So come on, dad, like, really?

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What do you know?
So he actually took to writing

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me letters and he would leave
them at the top of the stairwell

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in our house.
You know, if I'd been in a

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particularly bad mood or a real brat,
and he'd be like, it's very hard

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living with a 16 year old, and I
can see you going through a lot.

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And then he'd give me all this
advice going,

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maybe this will make sense later.
And he just did that relentlessly.

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At the time, Verity didn't realise
the value of these letters.

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I mean, she was just 16,
but her dad stuck with it,

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kept writing her letters, knowing in
his hard earned wisdom that these

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things will be important in time.
I mean, I speak about my dad a lot.

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The man's had world acclaim in
speeches I've done because he

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really was such an inspiration.
Verity was 24 and pursuing a

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music career as a songwriter in
London when her dad became ill.

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My sister and and my mom didn't want
to tell me that my dad was so sick.

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He they thought he had flu,
so they were downplaying it to me.

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But something in me just was like.
And I was about to go to Scotland

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with friends and my dad said,
go have fun. That'll be amazing.

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And then I thought, you know what?
I'm going to surprise them.

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But with just a few days before
Verity was supposed to fly out

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and surprise her family back in
South Africa, she had this

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overwhelming sense of dread.
Three days before I was meant to

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leave, I had this bizarre feeling
and I kept phoning my mum to check

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on my dad and I'd phoned him on
the way to hospital, you know,

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and and said, dad, are you okay?
I'm worried about you.

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And and my dad,
with this quirky sense of humour,

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had said, don't worry.
You know, I love breakfast in bed.

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He just was an absolute card.
But despite her dad's attempts at

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making her feel more comfortable and
that things were going to be okay,

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Verity still had this uneasy feeling.
And eventually I got hold of my mom

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and she was sobbing and I was like,
what's happened?

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And she said he had a stroke in
the ambulance being transferred.

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I managed to get off the phone and
get on a flight in December from

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London to Cape Town that night.
Change my ticket was unbelievable.

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Friends dropped everything.
Some of them ran out of their jobs

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just to get me to the airport,
and that was the longest 13 hour

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flight of my life.
Verity spent those 13 hours

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strapped into a seat thousands
of meters up in the air.

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She was making her way home without
knowing what reality would be waiting

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for her when she lands, not knowing
if her dad would be able to greet her

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when she touched down in Cape Town.
And I was shaken to my to my core.

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And we had a week with him and
it was really rough because he

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was paralysed.
So this very verbal father that

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I'd had could just look at me
with his eyes, and he was totally

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paralysed from the stroke.
He couldn't speak,

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he couldn't swallow.
And yeah, it was deeply,

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deeply traumatic.
Watching that and having to

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realize that he was never going to
see me do anything with my life.

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You wouldn't walk me down the aisle.
He wouldn't meet my children.

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He had a living will. He was someone.
If it's my time, it's my time.

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But yeah, it was. It was really hard.
And that living will, we had to

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override it because it had stipulated
that there would be no tube feeding.

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But I think when you sign
something like that,

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you think you're unconscious.
At that point, he was fully awake

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and aware, and we didn't know if
he was going to survive or not.

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And we realized it wasn't for us
to choose that.

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It's not if he you could see he
was hungry. It was. Yeah.

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It was a really, really hard week.
Veritas dad had contracted a

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staphylococcus infection in his
heart, which caused those flu like

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symptoms when he initially fell ill.
That infection went on to cause

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a stroke.
And because of the stroke,

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the doctors were not able to
operate on his heart.

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And after what was a really,
really hard week, there, it his

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father passed away. It threw me.
I went from being a very upbeat,

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bubbly girl to someone who struggled
with small talk at, you know,

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because everyone was still partying
and was still going to bars and

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clubs, and I actually couldn't
do it anymore because I'd really

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seen the the reality of life
that we lose the ones we love.

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There it is, the baby in the family.
She was in her mid-twenties when her

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dad passed away, while her siblings
were in their late 30s and had grown

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up lives that they needed to return
to to make sense of this loss in

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their own way. So when they left.
Verity stayed and I was with my mom.

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I mean,
I actually the minute I got home,

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I got into her bed and I slept in her
bed with her for months because I

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couldn't handle the pain of seeing
her having lost her life partner.

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So I think I took that on because,
you know,

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my sister and brother had left, and
so I was the one who stayed at home.

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Verity sense of loss carried
over into her work.

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I think I processed it through
my music.

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I wrote a song about him forever
and me, and it was really just

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celebrating the lessons he taught
me and how he'd guided me.

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At the time of her dad's passing,
Verity was a songwriter, and what she

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really wanted was to be a singer.
But fear had held her back and

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her dad knew this.
The last letter he ever wrote me.

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I was living in London,
too afraid to start singing,

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feeling sorry for myself.
And he took the time to write me a

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four page letter about how all the
people in our family my brother,

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my sister,
other examples had turned their lives

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around and that I had that choice.
Verdi's dad had always believed

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in the power of the mind,
and this was a way of being that was

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modeled to her from a very young age.
We were a very cerebral family,

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so it was always these big dinners
around our dining room table and

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talking about the power of the mind.
Both my parents were into it,

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my brother and sister were into it.
So from a young age I was watching

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the people I loved and admired play
with manifestation, play with.

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They were doing affirmations.
I mean, this is coming out of

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the 70s and 80s.
They had all those tapes that

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people used to listen to.
So I was brought up with that.

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And so while his death shook her to
her core verities, dad had given

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her 24 years worth of lessons and
countless number of letters about

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believing in the power of dreams.
And I didn't know what to do.

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But I also knew that I could not
live a life rooted in fear, and I

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couldn't live a life where I was
putting my dreams off till tomorrow,

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because my dad's death had shown me
that tomorrow is not guaranteed.

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And so I did at that point make
a very strange decision a few

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months after he died.
And that decision was to run the

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Knysna Half Marathon with a friend.
I don't run, I'm not very fit.

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But I said yes because it would
give me something to do.

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Grief can make you do strange things.
Although Verity said yes to

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doing a half marathon,
the thought of actually training

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for it was exhausting.
And she did what many of us do.

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She started listing all the excuses
why she wouldn't, couldn't,

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shouldn't do the half marathon.
But then she remembered a book by

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Paulo Coelho called The Pilgrimage.
And that's when Verity decided that

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she needed her own pilgrimage.
So rather than run the Knysna Half

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Marathon, she decided to walk the
Camino de Santiago across Spain.

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And so, in my mind,
I thought it was easier to walk

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800 k's than it was to run 21.
And I made a decision in a day.

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I signed up to go and start walking
on the six month anniversary of

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my dad's death, and what would
have been his 72nd birthday.

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And that was the hardest thing
I'd ever done.

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I did it on my own,
but I did it in his memory,

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and I did it to show myself that I
could finish something I could start

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and I could finish something hard.
And I called it a journey for the

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soul and the souls, because my word,
my feet were a mess at the end.

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But when I got to Santiago and I
could look at a country and go,

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wow, I've walked across that.
I can walk onto a stage,

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I can take a chance, I can try.
And I came home and that's when

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I recorded a demo.

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We make this show as a labor of love,
and because we believe stories

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So Verity walked the Camino de
Santiago, and she returned with a

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new vision for her music career
to record her demo and finally

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conquer her stage fright.
Now, Verity had dabbled with

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visualization and tapping into the
power of your mind, manifesting

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your dreams when she was younger.
It's actually how she came to be

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in London as a songwriter in the
first place, and one of the

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clearest examples of tapping into
the power of her mind for Verity

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happened four years earlier.
When she was 20, she attended a

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workshop with her sister and heard
the story about someone who'd

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written a letter to the future as
if something had already happened.

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I was struggling to work out how
to get into the music industry

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because I was writing lyrics,
but I was struggling with the music.

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My music was a bit.
It was sweet, but it wasn't great.

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And I was like, oh, I just need to
find someone who is great with music,

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struggles with lyrics,
has a record deal so I can get

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my words out into the world.
And so K, my sister said, well,

00:15:10.660 --> 00:15:13.570
why don't you write a letter?
So I was like, okay, why not?

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And I went home and I still remember
I dated at the 20th of November

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and it would have been 1995.
And I said, dear perfect music

00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.830
Writing partner, I'm so excited I met
you tonight at LA made unbelievable

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that you have a record deal.
I put it all in there and said,

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like, I can't wait to make music
with you. Love, Verity.

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And I put it in my drawer and I
got on with exams at university.

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And when the 20th of November came, I
was actually far away from Cape Town.

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And I remember going, oh,
I was meant to be at Le Made

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like that didn't happen.
I got back a week later and one

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of the friends I'd been there
with like phoned up and said, oh,

00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:53.670
let's, why don't we go to Lamda?
It was 1995, and the vibe that night

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at Le Made just wasn't giving.
So Verity and her friend decided

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to leave.
But as they got up to walk out

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the door.
A guy came running after us and said,

00:16:07.350 --> 00:16:09.210
are you girls going?
Don't you want to come have a

00:16:09.210 --> 00:16:11.640
drink with me and my friend?
And we were like, oh my word,

00:16:11.640 --> 00:16:14.400
not this.
And then something in me went,

00:16:14.400 --> 00:16:18.210
just say yes.
So we said okay and we went over

00:16:18.210 --> 00:16:21.120
and he had this quiet little guy
sitting next to them and he said,

00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:22.680
this is Tom.
And we're like, hi, Tom,

00:16:22.680 --> 00:16:24.720
nice to meet you.
And he says, Tom is the lead

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singer of Black Diamond.
And I was like, what?

00:16:28.500 --> 00:16:31.230
And we chatted and I said, you know.
And he said, no, I write the music.

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I really struggle with lyrics.
Just like Verity had written in

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her letter two months earlier.
I don't think I've ever told

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this story before,
and I was like, no ways.

00:16:42.510 --> 00:16:46.740
And I was in the BMG studio as a
week later I wrote lyrics for

00:16:46.740 --> 00:16:50.040
two songs for them and one of
them was called southbound.

00:16:50.070 --> 00:16:54.870
That band became Semi Sane.
Tom left and it was the lead song for

00:16:54.870 --> 00:16:59.400
Big Brother when it first came out.
My jaw dropped when I first heard

00:16:59.400 --> 00:17:03.300
this story, and variety goes on to
say that she learned a very valuable

00:17:03.300 --> 00:17:09.690
lesson through this exercise in 1995,
and that is to be very specific

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about the details.
Now, the only thing I didn't

00:17:13.140 --> 00:17:17.190
stipulate in my letter was that I
got writing credits or royalties,

00:17:18.840 --> 00:17:24.480
but I got exactly what I'd asked for,
and I think because I'd done it

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in such a playful way,
not really thinking it would work,

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there was just no resistance in
the way of that manifesting,

00:17:31.490 --> 00:17:34.550
but it was freaky.
And that's the kind of stuff that,

00:17:34.550 --> 00:17:37.130
like, my family had encouraged
and we played with.

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And, you know, I've tried it
many times with the lottery.

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It's never worked,
but there's been a few times where

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that's the influence and that's the
magic they've helped me create.

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So with the visualization and
the positivity that her parents

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instilled in her, together with
the experiences of the universe

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responding to her dreams and the
confidence she slowly forged on that

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800 kilometer walk across Spain,
Verity knew she wanted to get

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over her stage fright.
They might move to America.

00:18:08.750 --> 00:18:11.720
Had followed a man to America,
as we say, great life choice.

00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:14.960
But it got me there and I was having
to tell people I was a singer and

00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:18.950
I was trying to get things going.
So the person who helped me get

00:18:18.950 --> 00:18:22.640
over my stage fright was a singing
coach in America called Joe,

00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:27.110
and he was this African American man,
retired Motown singer, looked like

00:18:27.110 --> 00:18:31.160
James Brown, absolute Character,
and I went to Joe for lessons because

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I still was incredibly nervous.
I lacked confidence,

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and he was like, Verity, I'm not
going to teach you how to sing.

00:18:37.850 --> 00:18:40.040
I'm going to teach you how to be
confident.

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I was like, okay, well, good luck.
Let's see how you do that.

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And Joe's way of teaching
confidence was to make anything

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that could go wrong go wrong.
He would interrupt me.

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He would turn up the music,
turn down the music,

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knock over the mic, shout at me.
And every time I would lose my place,

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he'd be Verity.
When things go wrong, just keep on.

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And at the end of my three months
with him, I wasn't sure if the

00:19:04.790 --> 00:19:07.910
lessons were working, but I was clear
my relationship wasn't working.

00:19:07.910 --> 00:19:11.600
So I came home and something had
worked because I had the courage

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to get on stage.
And Joe was right. She'd done it.

00:19:16.250 --> 00:19:20.150
Verity had overcome her stage fright
and had slowly started building

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her music career by gigging around
Cape Town, and in order to take her

00:19:24.170 --> 00:19:28.720
career to the next level, Verity
knew she needed to record an album,

00:19:29.140 --> 00:19:34.210
but she didn't have the 300,000
odd rand to make that happen.

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And I got stuck at that point
where I think a lot of people get

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stuck going. There's my dream.
Here's an obstacle.

00:19:41.080 --> 00:19:45.070
Life's not fair, people. Why me?
And I was that person,

00:19:45.070 --> 00:19:49.270
and my dad would not have been proud.
Like I got into a proper victim state

00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:53.140
and I stayed there for two years.
And then eventually I was like,

00:19:53.140 --> 00:19:55.240
I either have to give up or have
to get creative.

00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:59.350
Something needs to shift.
And that was when I sat down with

00:19:59.350 --> 00:20:04.300
my sister K, who in our family,
she does all the hard work.

00:20:04.300 --> 00:20:06.640
She's the oldest, she'll tell
you she does all the hard work.

00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:11.050
It was at this point that Verity and
K rolled up their sleeves and did

00:20:11.050 --> 00:20:15.400
what their dad had taught them to do,
use the power of their minds.

00:20:15.430 --> 00:20:19.330
This time they turned to the six
Thinking Hats by Edward de Bono

00:20:19.330 --> 00:20:22.540
as a problem solving framework
to raise money.

00:20:22.570 --> 00:20:27.010
We did 30 minutes of using this
amazing framework for thinking, and I

00:20:27.010 --> 00:20:30.370
came up with an idea to ask people
to buy an album I hadn't recorded.

00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:34.240
Now everyone will go, oh,
that's crowdfunding now.

00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:37.150
And I'm like, yes,
but in 2005 that was called crazy.

00:20:37.300 --> 00:20:42.250
Like no one had done that before.
But the obstacle and finally

00:20:42.250 --> 00:20:47.080
realizing I couldn't stay stuck,
pushed me to shift poster to find a

00:20:47.080 --> 00:20:52.150
way to solve that problem and to take
action on a crazy idea and really

00:20:52.150 --> 00:20:57.220
take a chance with possibly failing.
But I was so excited to see if I

00:20:57.220 --> 00:20:59.500
could get people to buy
something that didn't exist.

00:20:59.500 --> 00:21:04.780
But we sold 2000 copies of nothing in
25 countries. We gave 10% to charity.

00:21:04.810 --> 00:21:09.490
We released it in 2007 and I
didn't become famous for music.

00:21:10.060 --> 00:21:12.400
Everyone was like,
come speak to us about innovation.

00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:15.100
I was like, that's not the plan.
I'm trying to be a pop star.

00:21:15.220 --> 00:21:19.630
So with all the positive thinking,
the manifestation using the power of

00:21:19.630 --> 00:21:24.120
her mind, you might be wondering,
did Verity make it as a pop star.

00:21:24.810 --> 00:21:28.650
So I was very disappointed the
music career didn't take off,

00:21:28.650 --> 00:21:32.550
but I really started to grapple
with depression, with anxiety.

00:21:32.850 --> 00:21:35.670
And for anyone who knows the
Enneagram personality thing,

00:21:35.670 --> 00:21:38.040
I'm a for.
And for those that don't know

00:21:38.040 --> 00:21:42.060
that Enneagram personality thing,
a four is an individualist.

00:21:42.060 --> 00:21:45.630
They're a self-aware, sensitive,
emotionally honest,

00:21:45.630 --> 00:21:50.820
creative people, but they can
also be moody and self-conscious.

00:21:51.030 --> 00:21:55.380
So shame is my is my friend often in
the back seat and sometimes in the

00:21:55.380 --> 00:21:59.670
driver's seat if I'm not careful.
So I really struggled with my life.

00:21:59.670 --> 00:22:01.290
Doesn't look the way it's
supposed to look.

00:22:01.290 --> 00:22:05.340
And it was my ego's idea of you
meant to be famous.

00:22:05.340 --> 00:22:09.000
The world is meant to love you and
choose you and say yes to you,

00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:12.660
and then you'll be happy.
And my soul was going, no,

00:22:12.660 --> 00:22:15.960
actually, this was showing you
how to do things differently.

00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:19.740
And now you have the opportunity
to help other people solve their

00:22:19.740 --> 00:22:24.630
problems, because I had to have
the grace to let go of the ego's

00:22:24.630 --> 00:22:29.370
dream and step onto the soul path.
And then my life became so much

00:22:29.370 --> 00:22:31.650
easier.
The biggest lesson I learned from

00:22:31.650 --> 00:22:35.280
that was that your ego often has one
idea of what your life should look

00:22:35.280 --> 00:22:41.940
like, and your soul has another.
The journey to her soul path was

00:22:41.940 --> 00:22:45.450
also a steep climb.
But by now you know that Verity

00:22:45.450 --> 00:22:50.250
doesn't choose the easy route.
She doesn't do the 21km when she

00:22:50.250 --> 00:22:56.340
can go 800km.
Verity Soul path led her to the World

00:22:56.340 --> 00:23:01.440
Championships of public speaking,
and this would be her stage.

00:23:02.370 --> 00:23:07.800
I had entered in 2012,
not understanding the scope and

00:23:07.800 --> 00:23:12.060
of how huge this contest was,
with 35,000 contestants from 150

00:23:12.060 --> 00:23:16.560
countries. I competed again in 2015.
I got as far as the Western Cape

00:23:16.560 --> 00:23:20.810
level where I came third, and then at
that point I put a lid on it and

00:23:20.810 --> 00:23:24.170
thoughts, but of a fixed mindset.
And then something shifted for

00:23:24.170 --> 00:23:28.580
me in 2020.
And the man who became the 2020

00:23:28.580 --> 00:23:33.680
world champion, Mike Carr.
His speech was about innovation

00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:37.040
and his message was the victory
is not in the result.

00:23:37.040 --> 00:23:41.390
The victory is in the try.
And I think we all like when you hear

00:23:41.390 --> 00:23:43.910
a message when you're ready for it.
And I was like, I'm not even

00:23:43.910 --> 00:23:49.130
trying with this contest.
And a week later I had to do a

00:23:49.130 --> 00:23:53.060
little speech at my club,
and I shared a story about my mum

00:23:53.060 --> 00:23:56.150
growing up would always say to me,
Verity, we need to leave the

00:23:56.150 --> 00:23:59.930
world better than we find it.
And I would get again as a

00:23:59.930 --> 00:24:03.740
tempestuous 16 year old. Oh, come.
On, mama, what do you know?

00:24:04.130 --> 00:24:06.320
And I wrote a speech about how
actually,

00:24:06.320 --> 00:24:09.980
that is how I've lived my life. She.
She'd succeeded in drilling it

00:24:09.980 --> 00:24:11.720
into me.
I suddenly thought,

00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:13.880
that's a contest speech.
That's a speech that could do

00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:18.170
well in a contest.
And like, seconds after thinking

00:24:18.170 --> 00:24:21.800
that, a voice inside me said, you're
going to be the next world champion.

00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:24.560
And I got goosebumps because I
was like, no, come on.

00:24:24.560 --> 00:24:27.380
Like 35,000 people.
No one from Africa has ever won that.

00:24:27.380 --> 00:24:31.820
That's ridiculous.
And so Verity set out to become

00:24:31.820 --> 00:24:35.930
the world public speaking
champion in 2021.

00:24:36.230 --> 00:24:40.580
And so I started working three
months before the first contest

00:24:40.580 --> 00:24:45.380
with this single minded focus to
bring the trophy back to Africa.

00:24:45.560 --> 00:24:48.830
So it is the hardest I've ever
worked on anything in my life.

00:24:48.830 --> 00:24:52.670
We're talking 3 to 4 hours a day
writing speeches, delivering them

00:24:52.670 --> 00:24:55.970
at online clubs, getting feedback,
paying for coaching.

00:24:55.970 --> 00:25:00.620
Varieties, life experiences and
the immense amount of effort was

00:25:00.620 --> 00:25:03.290
starting to pay off.
By the time I won the Southern

00:25:03.290 --> 00:25:06.050
African level,
I had 12 countries going.

00:25:06.050 --> 00:25:08.480
We think this is going to be the
first time someone brings this

00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:12.230
home to Africa. No pressure.
I was like, come on,

00:25:12.230 --> 00:25:14.660
this is ridiculous.
80 years and no one's won it from

00:25:14.660 --> 00:25:18.070
this continent and only five women.
That has to change.

00:25:18.190 --> 00:25:21.730
With each new opportunity to
deliver the same speech.

00:25:21.760 --> 00:25:26.620
Verde's confidence continued to grow.
And now she found herself in the

00:25:26.620 --> 00:25:30.460
semi-finals of the World Public
Speaking Championships.

00:25:31.330 --> 00:25:34.150
Eight speakers in the world.
I was the only woman left standing

00:25:34.150 --> 00:25:38.860
and the only speaker from Africa.
It's my speech about my mum got me

00:25:38.860 --> 00:25:45.010
into the finals. For the final round.
Speakers are asked to deliver a

00:25:45.010 --> 00:25:48.850
brand new speech, something that
nobody has heard before.

00:25:49.090 --> 00:25:53.500
Verity had the chance to tell a
very special story.

00:25:54.340 --> 00:25:58.450
And I had a second speech ready that
I'd been working on for 100 days

00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:03.370
about my dad and about that last
letter he wrote to me before he died.

00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:08.890
And I gave it everything,
and it was life changing to hear

00:26:08.890 --> 00:26:12.070
the news that I'd actually won.
These speeches were such testaments

00:26:12.070 --> 00:26:16.990
to my parents that I cried so much
while rehearsing them and hoping they

00:26:16.990 --> 00:26:20.260
could hear how much I love them.
And my speech that I won with

00:26:20.260 --> 00:26:22.750
was literally saying,
your life is a book.

00:26:22.750 --> 00:26:25.780
If you're not enjoying the read.
Pick up your pen and write a

00:26:25.780 --> 00:26:29.650
different story.
So it was about being the author

00:26:29.650 --> 00:26:33.640
of your life.
And so, even though Verity might

00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.970
have regretted her teenage
feelings towards her dad,

00:26:37.270 --> 00:26:42.400
she made sure to tell him how
cool he was in many ways, since.

00:26:43.030 --> 00:26:48.880
He did a lot to process that in the
years after he after he passed,

00:26:49.120 --> 00:26:56.290
I wrote it as a song and it was
the what I wanted my dad to know

00:26:56.290 --> 00:26:59.680
was how much he taught me.
And thank you for teaching me to

00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:03.190
live life with nature's tools.
You know, speak other people's

00:27:03.190 --> 00:27:06.640
tongues, don't stick to stupid rules.
Do as you would have done.

00:27:07.060 --> 00:27:09.790
But it really was.
He taught me how to live lightly

00:27:09.790 --> 00:27:13.300
on the world, how to live,
but also live lightly with humour

00:27:13.300 --> 00:27:17.550
Humor and connection to others and
to have a reverence for nature.

00:27:17.820 --> 00:27:21.450
And I told him that, you know,
he just could squeeze my hand

00:27:21.450 --> 00:27:24.840
and look at me.
It's easy to think you've got time.

00:27:24.840 --> 00:27:28.380
So I think he had an inkling.
But wherever he's looking down

00:27:28.380 --> 00:27:30.780
from now,
I think he's got a very good idea.

00:27:33.750 --> 00:27:37.500
Verity Pryce works in the
competitive industry of public

00:27:37.500 --> 00:27:41.610
speaking and facilitation, helping
others write their own stories.

00:27:42.210 --> 00:27:45.090
She lives in Claremont with her
husband and little boy.

00:27:45.600 --> 00:27:48.210
And you can listen to this song
she wrote for her dad,

00:27:48.210 --> 00:27:56.790
Forever in Me on Spotify.
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